![]() For Silent Way, we only really need to be concerned with the midi node on that one. In this case, the one on top is the access point from Logic into Bidule. ![]() If the nodes(blue=audio, white=midi) are on the bottom of the bidules, they are outputs from that particular bidule. Those blocks can be referred to as bidules('The word “Bidule” is French for “thingy” or “gadget”'). The two long blocks at the top and bottom labelled "Bidule Plugin_1" are the 16 inputs and outputs. Here's what I think your setup would look like in Bidule: That's really it on the Logic->Bidule side. Set the midi up for Bidule like you would for Kontakt or anything you want to use midi to control. Assign the first four to the pairs of adat outs that represent your ES-3 outs. ![]() ![]() If Logic works like most DAWs, you will now have 8 stereo channels for the Bidule plugin. For use with the ES-3, you would choose the 16 i/o version and only need to use 8 of the outputs of the plugin. For Bidule, there are 2, 16, and 32 i/o versions. Think of loading the Bidule plugin as loading any multi-output plugin like, say, Kontakt. Again, not really important to your question. Also, I haven't used the ES-5 or ESX-8CV, so I'm not sure if I got your routing 100% right. Where would bidule go in this setup? I have the 8CV + My ES5 Controllers (for midi out) all on one bus channel, but I don't know how to go about this.First, I don't have Logic and am not even on Mac, but it's not really important to show you what you are asking. So, I have two voice controller tracks for each 'instrument' - 1 going to the corresponding adat output on the es3 (pitch), and the other going to a bus channel (env), which hosts the 8cv. I am running all of my pitch info out of the es3, and my env out of the 8cv. There's some discussion in that thread about the 8CV that might be worth a read.Ĭan someone post a screenshot on how to use bidule in logic? I once thought about getting one and asked os about what I wanted to use it for. Considering how bullet-proof tight his stuff normally is, it may not even be noticeable to you and me. Besides, it's not like I have ever really experienced a "compromise" in Expert Sleepers sfw/hw. These are just not questions you have to ask when using the ES-3, though.īut considering this is the only options available to you, I would still give it a go. Still, I guess it really depends on what you are using it for and how many outs you are using. For example, if the audio interface/DAW is running at 48kHz, the ESX-8CV's outputs are running at between 16kHz and 2kHz, depending on how many channels are active." "In order to squeeze eight 12 bit channels through one 8 bit connection, the channels are time-multiplexed and so effectively run at between one-third and one-twenty fourth of the audio sample rate. ![]() To be fair and honest, I've never even tried one but the time-multiplexing is what makes me wary. I've read a million times that Os recommends the ES-3 and considers it superior, but in your opinion would my system be potentially compromised by relying on ES-40 + 8CV for those kinds of "utility" purposes? (For example, I believe I read somewhere that SPDIF-reliant ES systems aren't able to power LFOs that go into audio range.) Or is it merely that this is just not as optimal as the ES-3?LFOs and envelopes is where there might be problems. All iterations of the starter kit I've been researching / building on modulargrid include ES-40 & ESX-8CV, and I would hope to use that for midi->CV purposes, as well as assigning LFOs, envelopes, gates, etc to other modules. Bil_g, can you speak more to this? So I don't have the ability to switch AI's and so am restricted to a SPDIF-enabled interface. ![]()
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